"Sed ĉu vi povos persvadi nin," li demandis, "se ni ne aŭskultos?" "Tute ne," Glaŭkono respondis. "Do konkludu ke ni ne aŭskultos." ("But will you be able to persuade us", he asked, "if we will not listen?" "Absolutely not", Glaucon answered. "So, conclude that we will not listen.") [2012, Plato, translated by Donald Broadribb, La Respubliko (Traduko al Esperanto) [The Republic (Translation into Esperanto)], 2nd corrected edition (paperback), New York: Mondial, →ISBN, page 17:]